Since 2.92 there is a new concept of active modifier, which was introduced due to new geometry nodes project.
The problem is that in 2.91 there is a possibility to apply/duplicate modifier which is under cursor while in 2.92 it works only for active one, so there is at least 1 extra step to do the same thing.
Is there a way to return a 2.91 behavior? I know there is probably a way to get it work through python, but it kind of annoying when good features gone…
Fully agree with you here, having something applied which is not in user focus is a strange behavior, given that the rest of Blender is so much context and what is under the mouse cursor currently oriented.
As far as I can tell going through commits, this changes was made by @HooglyBoogly @pablovazquez@brecht could you please assist about this decision and if there is a way to get back old behavior?
As for now, the only function of active modifier is viewing corresponding geometry nodes.
But this doesn’t break anything if modifier under cursor will be applied rather than active one.
I think two concepts got messed together…
Previously modifiers had no selection or active state, so the hover shortcuts did not conflict with any idea.
With geometry nodes there is an active modifier now. Yes, it’s only useful for geometry nodes, this is not ideal, but it’s a necessary idea, and it’s consistent with the idea of active elements elsewhere in Blender.
In Blender when you operate on elements you operate on the selection or the active element. So as soon as there is an active element here, it’s really inconsistent to operate on the hovered element.
There is no way to get the old behavior back by just editing the keymap, because the operators had to change for this. I’m not saying this is ideal, I acknowledge that it can be slower, especially combined with the hidden “Apply Modifier” button. I just think returning the old behavior does not make sense here anymore.
Thanks for answer and explanation!
I don’t really know a good way to solve it actually…
It seems we can’t have this working in a blender core after active modifier was introduced.
Is there a way to make this behavior possible using python?
Hmm, you could make new operators that call the set active modifier operator with “invoke” (it will set based on mouse position), then call the “apply modifier” operator.
Hi Hans, I think one of the reasons why it feels so slow compared to the previous method it’s that the number of areas that are clickable to make the modifier active are quite limited: here I already gave my suggestions on all the areas and “actions” that should make the modifier active if clicked. I know you already committed a patch that extended a little bit the clickable space, but I think that if all the areas I mentioned can trigger the active state, this feature will be already way faster and more responsive. Thanks!
I think the main question is how to get the modifier under cursor.
There is a way to grab data path using bpy.ops.ui.copy_data_path_button, but how really to detect the modifier “box”?
This is the first thing I noticed when first tested geometry nodes in 2.92 alpha. The new concept of active modifier broke extremely convinient workflow.
I think UX team should think of a solution to bring this back. It’s probably too late for 2.92, but it should be back for 2.93. It’s such a useful workflow I can imagine users to be very upset when 2.92 hit the release.
The most simple logic I see here is to trigger modifier under the cursor to become active and then apply/duplicate/delete it based on a hotkey.
While I appreciate the effort it’s ridiculous that community have to figure out workarounds for a broken workflow that should work out of the box. Especially when it was working already.
Yeap, that’s sad.
A lot of features struggling here and there, but it is really hard to influate design in blender despite it is open to community.
But since I use latest builds I needed this addon anyway.
This is extremly bad change. It breaks good workflow for no reason and no option to change it back. Clearly we shoudn`t have addon for this, but thx to the guy who did it though