Have you used other 3d apps? What Iâm suggesting is a critical feature and very powerful, Only blender lacks it. And ofc there should be an option to hide it.
And no, Iâm not a fan of âkeyboard centric workflowsââŚ
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@TheRedWaxPolice, I think youâll want to use the âIndustry Compatibleâ keymap when that is ready. The intent of the Blender keymap is not to try to emulate other software, but work efficient in its own way which does make use of the keyboard.
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No, that issue is still there when you try to use many of the tools other than box select. There are also some subtle conflicts for the box select tool, like activating the object you start dragging on.
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Yes, Iâll probably jump to the âIndustry Compatibleâ keymap once itâs available.
Still I canât see how showing the gizmo when doing selections would be a bad thing. Itâs such a handy featureâŚ
But I would be happy if there was a way to incorporate that feature somehow with the âIndustry Compatibleâ keymap.
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I would, unfortunately Iâm not familiar with blender codeâŚ
CheersâŚ
I also would like to have the gizmo showing when using the selection tools, yes.
Maybe this could be available only for the active âselectionâ tools, so the keyboard lovers donât see it.
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I donât understand. The Move gizmo is not used when the Box Select tool is active, so thereâs no need for a toggle to disable it.
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Hi Guys. Thanks for all the hard work you boys have been putting into making Left-Click Select the New Norm. 
Itâs definitely still a WIP, but appreciate that youâre open to brain-storming with the community. Canât improve something unless you field test it with the masses. 
So letâs get this thing from Plan to Polish. Shall we. 
Hereâs a small inconsistency I found while using âShift Dbl-Clickâ vs âShift Alt Clickâ for Loop Select (Add).
When using âShift Dbl-Clickâ to select multiple loops, there seems to be no particular way to actually âDe-Selectâ an edge/face loop like you would do with âAlt Shift Clickâ.
I was wondering the reason for this and checked out the key-bindings for both and realized the slight difference in regards to âToggle Selectâ setting.
Now, I thought. Iâd like for both techniques to work the same. For âConsistenciesâ sake. So it should be simple as matching the settings in both. So, Shift Dbl-Click (Toggle Select = On, Extend Select = Off)
Interesting enough. It gave me the toggle select/de-select loops action I was looking for. But now I had to âTriple-Clickâ instead to get it to work.
So, Now I get why these 2 are setup differently from each other, even though they are practically for the same action. 
Note: Even if you use Shift Dbl-Click to select multiple loops. You still have to use âAlt Shift Clickâ if you must de-select only select (individual) loops.
Nothing to fuss about for most users, apart from the inconsistency between using both ways for selecting/de-selecting multiple loops. But might sort of affect users who use an âEmulate 3-Button Mouseâ setup. 
Both techniques work fine as an initial implementation. But I do feel that users who turn on Emulate 3BM, will be at a disadvantage as they practically cannot use the âShift Alt Clickâ (Loop Select/De-Select Toggle) method at all.
Now this could be countered if âAlt Dbl-Clickâ for âLoop De-Selectâ worked as intended. But atm, it doesnât really seem to do anything other than just De-Select âEverythingâ.
I tried this with multiple selections and it really doesnât do anything that, Alt A, Dbl-A -or- just single clicking on the mesh canât do to De-Select all.
Now if âAlt Dbl-Clickâ was able to work even while using Emulate 3BM, and it would De-Select only the specific loop(s) you Dbl-Click on. (Shift Alt Dbl-Click?) Then I feel it being included in the default keymap could be justified.
Because right now, with âAlt Clickâ being added back as Loop Select. Having âAlt Dbl-Clickâ as a âDe-Select Allâ function seems a bit risky. Imagine half way through your selection you mistakenly Alt Dbl-Click instead of a Single Click. You end up having to redo all your selections. Or undo a few times. Itâs kinda flow breaking, IMHO.
Personally, I still feel Blenderâs Original setup for Components Loop/Ring selection is âPerfectâ. Itâs much less strenuous than Dbl-Clicking multiple times. But for Tablet, Touch-Pad, Emulate 3BM Users. Iâm glad we have options now. 
But I truly do believe that Blender works âBestâ with an actual 3 Button Mouse, or Stylus with Middle-Mouse Button mapped to one of itâs side buttons. 
So for Keyboard Users with a 3BM -or- Stylus with MMB on Side.
Alt Click = Select Loop (Edge/Face/vertex)
Shift Alt Click = Select Loop (Add/Subtract), [Toggle]
Alt Ctrl Click = Select Ring (Edge/Face/vertex)
Shift Alt Ctrl Click = Select Ring (Add/Subtract), [Toggle]
Ctrl Click = Select Shortest Path
Shift Ctrl Click = Select Shortest Path (Add/Subtract), [Toggle]
For users who have âEmulate 3BMâ Enabled. (Personally, if youâre ânotâ using Emulate 3BM, Iâd certainly turn these 3 keybinds âOffâ and use only the above setup. Much more straightforward and less confusing/strenuous.)
Dbl-Click = Select Loop (Edge/Face/vertex)
Shift Dbl-Click = Select Loop (Add Only)
Alt Dbl-Click = De-Select Loop (Currently De-Selects All)
Hope all this made some sense. Thanks Guys. Have a Good Weekend.
@billrey what @TheRedWaxPolice is referring is very important concept in almost all left click applications including file managers, browsers, image editing application, 3D software ⌠Usually in those apps default tool is box/marque select, when you made selection you are able to move selected objects by dragging them without switching to âmove toolâ - this is there transform gizmo could be solution to make this workflow possible in Blender viewport. That makes it quick and intuitive and same like in all apps. @TheRedWaxPolice tries to show how to implement this concept, and solve problem if gizmo gets in a way.
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Personnaly I would like something pretty simple
-Click > select
-Ctrl + Click > deselect
-Shift + Click > add to selection
-Click and drag > box select
-Ctrl + Click and Drag > lasso select
-Click outside > deselect everything
Maybe we could use CTRL + Double to deselect eveything without having to zoom backward
Same for the opposite Shift + Double Click to select everything
keep the same behavior of blender to select loop and ring
Or, like other software
-Select loop if we are at the extremity of an edge
-Select rign if we click at the middle of the edge
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It already works like this pretty much. The only thing that is different is that the current system is more consistent than that. Currently with the Box Select tool, holding Shift extends the box selection, while holding Ctrl subtracts from the selection. Ctrl LMB is therefore already used, and so it cannot also be used to invoke lasso select.
Now, with the default Box Select tool, it is:
- Click > select
- Shift + Click > add to selection (also toggles if you shift click on something that is already selected)
- Click and drag > box select
- Shift + Click and Drag > box select add
- Ctrl + Click and Drag > box select remove
The click outside to deselect feature is something we could add, although obviously that would only be an alternative way to do it. If your entire screen is filled with objects, there is no âoutsideâ, so itâs dangerous to rely on this.
ok, for lasso select I can live with the blender behavior ^^
I use more the lasso than the box, maybe because the box on 2.79 is not easy to use.
One thing I edited on my blender is the circle, I press C and select or deselect and when I release the button, Iâm not in the circle select.
Itâs really nice to use it like that.
The click outside to deselect feature is something we could add, although obviously that would only be an alternative way to do it. If your entire screen is filled with objects, there is no âoutsideâ, so itâs dangerous to rely on this.
I live the fact that belnder donât select objects, but itâs more natural to deselect by clicking ouside.
So like I said on my first post, maybe CTRL + double click to deselect everything and Shift + double click to select everything.
That follow the other keys IMO.
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Yes, what you are referring to is âsticky keysâ. We have that for things like holding D and clicking to draw. Maybe this could be added more places, although itâs sometimes a but tricky because the C key then has to become a click event rather than a press event.
As an aside, if you prefer the lasso select tool to be default, you can do it. Just change the selection tool to Lasso Select, and then save your startup blend. Then Shift and Ctrl will also use the lasso to extend or remove from the selection.
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You mean, the active tools?
Yes, right, exactly. No need to change the keymap if all you want is lasso select.
Ok, I will download the last build to test all of that.
Edit: in box mode, no way to deselect everything without deselect them?
I think it would be good to have the âclick outsideâ feature btw, especially in the 2D editors like the node editor, which already works a lot like files on a desktop. Dragging outside the nodes starts a box selection, while dragging inside the node drags the node.
I think it should also just deselect then you click outside in an empty area.
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