Hi, I like the posibility to change the size of the new T Toolbar, and hide the names, but when I hover over an icon it shows this:
It could be nice that when I hover over an icon, it should display the name of the tool, for example:
And that when I hover over every icon it hides the previous and shows the next one.
Is it too difficult to implement? What do you think?
The text hinting give really bad result on 4K screen, pablo said it was good, but nope sorry, it’s bad.
There are two more platforms other than Windows. Font looks different depending on the platform, which is another reason to disable hinting by default.
This is planned to be implemented as a new sort of instant tooltips.
What about instead creating special menu for properties editor, maybe better make horizontal headers for all types of editors? For example how it cam looks like with outliner:
Now we have option to make header on top and bottom, in my suggestion you can set it on all 4 sides: top, bottom, left and right. Some text hints will be hidden and replaced with icons
Indeed, on MAC it’s perfect.
The further development is documented in this very forum.
My question is still without answer. It’s still on air. Is at least one developer who work with interface read this thread called " User Feedback - Blender 2.8 user interface design "? No need to hide. I just want to ask few short question & get few clear answers … It is not deadly.
Fire away your UI questions and feedback, plenty of developers read the threads.
I am a developer and @pablovazquez is part of the UI Team.
Excellent. Hope I don’t take lot of your time.
First - I like most of new things in 2.8. But this one completely killing " Tool Shelf " area and replacing by just buttons is still something i don’t see any really reasonable reasons why it was done so radically.
Probably everyone is tired of my posts about Tool Shelf & 2.8. I apologize for the excessive persistence. I just want to end this discussion for myself. Maybe for someone else. Thank you for answering me.
you so funny
yes yes, I’m with you, but your meme made me die laughing
No problem!
Here are the reasons and the new design for the tool system (including the tools panel): https://developer.blender.org/T55386
(That’s the official issue tracker. Feedback, feature requests and discussion should still stay on devtalk.)
It seems that in the proposal directions changed for the top bar and the options are now avaiable in multiple places like the custom properties panel.
In my experience this is indicating some design issues and i think instead of putting the options in multiple places we should take a step back and think about the tob bar concept again. So there is definitely some brainstorming needed how to entangle this situation.
Having the same options in different places is really not a good thing.
Maybe its not the worst to have it in the properties panel and remove the top bar?
But also that is concept wise detached from the working viewport, should this be a goal of the new concept?
Hi, this has been on the todo list from the beginning. Hopefully we will get this implemented asap.
The new active tool icons look great. Also, I rigged a character tonight and really liked how much faster the armature creation workflow was with the new extrude active tool. Good stuff.
I really think the top bar needs to be fleshed out more. I think you guys are focusing too much on what can be set before a tool is used. It seems to me the top bar would be much more usable if you also have some of the functionality of the f6 menu. This is what most people would expect to happen in the top bar. Especially users of photo editing and graphic design software. It is just a little strange having a separation of pre operation, post operation settings in two different places in the interface. Most people using software don’t see the separation in these steps as you guys do. They want all of the parameters of the tool in one place. Imagine that the bevel tool exposed not only the settings it has now in the top bar (Amount Type, Segments, Profile, Vertex Only) but also had a select few of the settings in the f6 menu (Amount, Clamp, Loop Slide, etc.). Before you left click to start the active tool operation, everything but what that drag motion controls (amount) is used to determine the result you get from using the tool (click and drag with the left mouse button). Upon release, the top bar reflects all of the settings just used and also the amount value is populated based on the drag you just did. The expectation for people who are used to these types of tools from other software would expect that any time a new selection is made and the Amount value is adjusted in the top bar, that a new bevel is created on those selected edges instead of adjusting the bevel on the previous selection.
I realize that this looks a lot like a proposal and this is not the forum for that type of talk, but I’m just using this to illuminate the issues with the current design of the top bar.
I fully understand why the top bar functions the way that it does, but if you guys really think about the way the top bar will be used, you would have to see that the settings that are there now will be rarely adjusted since they can be adjusted after the fact. I know what I’m mentioning here will take a lot of programming because it will require each control in the top bar to serve two purposes - the pre and post settings adjustments. That requires a good bit of hands on coding time with each of the settings for each of the tools. I just feel like its a worthy journey though. The top bar as it is, with only settings for your next left click and drag, won’t be used much, if at all. It may even confuse users.
The work that you guys are doing is really amazing and I truly look forward to the future of Blender 2.8x.
Don’t know if its still in development or not but with editing vertex+edge+face altogether at the same time is hard to select element you want. Selection area for each element is just too small.
Solution:
Just create wider area around the center of each element.
Yes this is a problem. I just tried it out and edges were almost impossible to select. I didn’t have issues with selecting verts or faces.
Is there a thread for ongoing Blender Grease Pencil UI design? I think the workflow ins’t quite right yet and have some suggestions, but don’t want to repeat ideas that have already been brought up.
There is no general thread, here, since merge in 2.8 branch.
So, feel free to create one.
But you can read thread on Blenderartists, first.
